The Mental Side of Programming

Conversations exploring what makes up the mental side of programming and the craft of building software.

Episodes

Feb 22, 2026

1 hr 45 sec

In this episode, we talk with Jared M. Smith, Principal Engineer @ Logistically and host of the Elm Town podcast
Quick note about this episode: is was recorded back in April 2025. 
Thanks to Descript, the audio was saved. You can find out more at https://web.descript.com/
Also, our topics and conversation are all structured around the idea of a "lean coffee" discussion. We know https://www.leancoffeetable.com/
Our music was made specifically for The Mental Side of Programming by Lynx Kinetic. 
SHOW NOTES 
Books:
Zen Computer by Philip Toshio Sudo
Zen 24/7 by Philip Toshio Sudo
Zen Guitar by Philip Toshio Sudo
The Programmer's Brain by Dr. Felienne Hermans
Atomic Habits (author not specified in transcript)
Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks
Pleasures of Small Motions by Bob Fancher (about billiards/pool, written by a psychologist)
The Inner Game of Tennis by Tim Galloway
The Trillion Dollar Coach (about Bill Cunningham)
Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind by Shunryu Suzuki
Blog Posts:
"The Interruptible Programmer" by Steve Streeting (from Work 2.0 series, circa 2010)
Podcasts:
Elm Town (hosted by Jared Smith)
Lenards is on Elm Town 76
Programming Languages:
Elm (functional programming language)
Hedy (programming language created by Dr. Felienne Hermans)
Philosophers/Concepts:
Epictetus (Stoic philosopher)
Heraclitus (quote: "No one steps in the same river twice")
Ship of Theseus (philosophical thought experiment)
Gear:
Kinesis Advantage Pro (keyboard mentioned by Jared)
Feedback:
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Feb 22, 2026

1 hr 45 sec

Dec 15, 2024

1 hr 36 min

What's this? Programmers talking about how to do the work without making ourselves miserable. 
Our first guest is Kelly Wilkerson. Our conversation ranges from creating & maintaining a "brag file" to how to reframe situations for more intellectual curiosity. Kelly is whip-smart and a thorough delight.
Find out more about what Decipher Media offers at https://deciphertools.com/
Our theme music is made by Lynx Kinetic, https://soundcloud.com/lynx-kinetic
 
Please let us know what you think: https://forms.gle/6GAVF6YawczP2sUZA
 
Thank you, I appreciate you checking out the podcast. 

Dec 15, 2024

1 hr 36 min

Jan 3, 2024

44 sec

Coming in March, a podcast about the mindset and mental aspect of creating software. 

Jan 3, 2024

44 sec

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